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Thursday, September 18, 2025

Indian thought system gives great stress to quiescent state of mind

 

In Indian ideas on psychology and meditation, we  envisage, a state of cessation of thoughts.

Even for the theories of conscious, subconscious, and superconscious states enumerated by western psychological theories, we have no concrete evidence. Moreover, there can be no concrete evidence in this matter because the measuring standard is the mind and the thing measured too is the mind.

There can be theories at macro levels.

However, in very subtle matters, only experiences can guide us. The recording or documentation of such experiences can vary, and can be faulty too. The error factors abound.

In spite of these limitations, the research by Indian seers on the mind and thoughts advanced to dizzying levels of insights eons prior to the time when even people elsewhere recognized even the existence of the art and science of psychology very slightly.

Even in physics,( I mean the most advanced western science of theoretical physics) whether energy gets transmitted in waves of electrical and magnetic variation or whether the energy is transmitted in disjointed quanta is not yet certain. 

In this backdrop, if we take cue from that uncertainty principle, even if there is a subconscious mind, how can we be sure that that subconscious mind is functioning continuously in in periodic bouts of activity and inactivity?

Suffice to say that the Indian thought system gives great stress to quiescent state of mind, state of mind bereft of all activity. Moreover, the Yoga the chittavrittinirodha (चित्तवृत्तिनिरोधः), of Patanjali and others aim at that state.

Wednesday, September 17, 2025

samaadi and detachment

 



𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐝 𝐚 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐜𝐞𝐬𝐬, 𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧.
𝐌𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐠𝐨𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐮𝐜𝐤 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐮𝐞.
"𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 we have to remember 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐲 𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐨𝐟 𝐧𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐚 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐚 𝐨𝐟 𝐚𝐛𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐮𝐭𝐞 𝐯𝐨𝐢𝐝 𝐛𝐞𝐭𝐰𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐜𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐧𝐞𝐱𝐭 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐜𝐞𝐬𝐬. 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐚𝐩 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐨𝐨 𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐲 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐮𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐲.
𝐁𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐧𝐜𝐞 we identify 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐲 𝐬𝐥𝐨𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐰𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧, 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐞𝐟𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧, we can 𝐞𝐱𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐧𝐨-𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐚.
𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐬𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐝𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 .
𝐂𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐬𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐝𝐡𝐢 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠.
𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐚𝐢𝐦 𝐨𝐟 𝐲𝐨𝐠𝐚 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐬 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐭𝐨𝐨.
𝐖𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐣𝐞𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐦𝐮𝐤𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧.
𝐄𝐚𝐬𝐢𝐥𝐲 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐞."

Monday, September 08, 2025

𝐈𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐢𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐞 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐛𝐲 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧



𝐌𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧 us
𝐌𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐨𝐮𝐭𝐬𝐢𝐝𝐞.
𝐇𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫
𝐌𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐝𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞..
𝐈𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐢𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐞 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧
𝐛𝐲
𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧..
𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐡𝐞𝐥𝐩 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐭𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐰𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐯𝐞
𝐌𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐬𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐮𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐲𝐨𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐨𝐨, 𝐢𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐜𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐝..

Friday, September 08, 2023

there can be dynamic quiet, static quiet and absolute or dead quiet too..



there can be dynamic quiet, static quiet and absolute or dead quiet too..
By usual means like meditation we reach a state of quietness for some few seconds, and we would be pushed back to the mundane and ordinary thoughts almost immediately, just like a stone or something attached to an elastic string when suddenly stretched can hit a target and remain there for few seconds and then return back to the original state..
The static quiet is where we reach the quietness but we are in some vague way conscious of our original state and could return to normalcy after some time with our own control..
This is like a ball attached to the far end of a sting and just placed on a target with the other end held by our fingers.. The ball will return to the original state once we pull the string towards us or away from the target..
The dead quiet can come only when we are dead.. Like just throwing a stone away once for all..
The second state is what we find in yogis.. the Samadhi etc..
But there is always a risk that one may use the hold,, and if he remains in that state of Samadhi for infinite time period it may almost mean death for the physical body..
Some can, it is believed attain even end of life this way.. what we allude as leaving the body by yoga agni etc,,
what Sati the Dakshayani did..
But then what I have dealt with as three stages might be classified by seers and teachers into many more sub groups..
However whatever may be the quiet we attain other than when we lose complete control are only relative.. they cannot be absolute..